Posted by Helen on: 04.21.2008 /
Note: I’m going to avoid discussing important features of the plot for those who haven’t read this yet and want to.
Pam kindly gave me a copy of The Shack last week when I was in Seattle. She had just met with and interviewed the author. I was intrigued, having heard about the book a few weeks earlier from Randy, who was recommending it highly. It’s selling extremely well - it’s clearly a popular book.
Here are some other mentions of it on our blogs/by OTM friends: Randy brings it up briefly here). Also, Carmen and April mentioned it recently. Benjamin received a copy from Pam too last week and just posted a very interesting, detailed review on his blog.
It turned out to be perfect plane reading for someone with a longish flight (4 hours) and not much sleep the night before (also 4 hours). I did take a short nap in the middle but even so I was able to finish the book during the flight.
The first thing I noticed was, from a literary point of view this book didn’t impress me. Lines like the following reminded me of the cliched writing of the Left Behind series
Mack did not know it then, but within twenty-four hours his prayers would change, drastically.
There are much better ways to build suspense than this (imo).
I was glad Pam had mentioned it not being especially well-written - it meant this didn’t come as a surprise. Since no-one had led me to expect this was a literary masterpiece I don’t want to dwell on that. It’s not as if it has much competition in that arena from other contemporary Christian fiction (in my experience).
The Shack, like other Christian novels I’ve read, ‘has an agenda’. Generally I try to avoid these books because I’m hit way too hard over the head with the agenda and I have issues with it anyway. However, The Shack held my interest and the agenda didn’t annoy me because I recognized it as my own, eleven years ago.
Back then I wanted to do exactly what this author sets out to do: help people believe that God is kind, gentle, sensitive and fun. I was using the Bible and it’s a bit hard to demonstrate the fun part like the author is able to do his novel. But I did my best with the other attributes. What I wrote is still online on my personal blog: For Christians in Pain: About God
I warmed to the author because I identified with his goal and appreciated it. I also liked how daring he is in his depiction of God [Jesus' parent], Jesus and the Holy Spirit. At one point Jesus clumsily drops something. Is it possible for God to be clumsy? I don’t know but I like that the author dared to go there. The way the issue is dealt with in the story powerfully conveys fun and forgiveness and relationship as what God is all about. I’m sure it was included as a plot device to show those things and maybe also to shock people out of their preconceived notions about God in a playful way.
The most profound aspect of the book, for me, is that the author portrays God as
God is very generous with that person, taking lots of time with him, respecting that trusting God is hard for him.
There’s a Bible verse which for me embodies this aspect of God’s nature. It says Jesus wouldn’t break a bruised reed or snuff out a smoldering candle wick. I rarely hear the implications of this verse discussed by Christians; in fact the way many Christians talk about God it seems impossible he/she could show this sensitivity and be this gentle with broken people.
Applying it to myself: if God truly is this way it seems obvious to me that God wouldn’t push me to pray if my personal circumstances make it not doable for me. However I regularly run into Christians who try to persuade me to pray. It seems they’ve either not read this verse or not understood what it means.
Interestingly, that verse combines Jesus’ sensitivity with a statement about bringing justice. So, while he is treating people who need gentleness with the utmost gentleness, anyone who is responsible for injustice will be dealt with very differently. Not that people generally neatly divide into ‘abused’ or ‘abuser’ - many are a mixture of both, I believe. But with all his/her knowledge and sensitivity I’m sure God is able to perfectly deal with each individual - right? :) That’s the God portrayed in this book.
I think my buttons that get easily pushed might have been asleep on the ride home through sheer exhaustion, or maybe I had such a good time in Seattle I was not feeling at all reactive. Because the things that tend to bother me about Christian theology only mildly disturbed me in this book. They did cause a significant disconnect for me intellectually but I was glad they didn’t trigger me much emotionally on this occasion.
This story is full of questions from Mack, the main character and answers from God - so, in effect, it lays out a theology to deal with suffering. This is the big question all theological systems have to address. The God of The Shack values free will which means he/she has to allow humans to use it in ways which cause suffering to other humans - sometimes great suffering.
It’s implied in the book that everything will be ok in the end; heaven is a big part of how that will happen. Also, the book implies that this God is so forgiving that he/she works with the worst people to try to redeem them if at all possible. At first I thought it was saying ‘everyone gets to heaven in the end’ but then I realized free-will leaves that open; it simply implies God makes every effort with each person and no-one will miss heaven if there’s any possible way to get them there.
If you give up total control because of free will how can you then guarantee everything will be ok in the end? I don’t see how to reconcile those two which are both implied in the book.
I was never drawn to the God who didn’t have total control because I wanted security and guarantees. If God doesn’t provide them and I have to accept the uncertainty of life then, I may as well go all the way and be an atheist (almost) who is not trying to depend in any way on a God who is only dependable and powerful up to a point. Maybe you have reasons why having faith in a God limited by freewill is way better than not having faith in God at all. But for me, the latter works better.
These are the points of disconnect for me in the book and they are significant. I admired what the author is attempting to do - present a God who is likeable - and hope others will be helped by it. The amazing sales of the book indicate it’s connecting well with people so they probably are being helped. Nevertheless it doesn’t change where I’m at personally, because it didn’t have any new answers I hadn’t thought of, which would address my intellectual issues.
Essentially this book presents God in the form of some kind, acceptive, loving human beings. And many people are finding that very powerful. Demonstrating (I think) that they are used to thinking of God as meaner than this. Why is that? Why have so many people got the idea that God is meaner than the best human friend they have (or could imagine, if they are short of friends)?
I know from experience that being around people who are consistently kind and accepting can be very healing to those who have been hurt in past relationships. I’m not going to argue with anyone who believes that’s because kind people are in fact expressing God’s love and this is all part of God’s plan. Nevertheless, for me, it’s enough to know that they are human beings who care.
I probably would like The Shack better if God wasn’t (overtly) in it and it was simply a story about humans who care enough to help each other to heal. Even for Christians, that’s how it happens in real life, right?
Which brings me to my final point: escapist Christian fiction concerns me because it used to encourage me to dream rather than to get on with my life. It made life look drab and I wanted to stay in the world of books like this where God is visible and individually shows people they’ll live happily ever after. I preferred that over getting on with life in which even to Christians God often seems absent. Or, if not absent, he/she still doesn’t conveniently show up for personal encounters where all their difficult questions get answered.
I’m glad I read it. Now I know what Randy meant when he said Demond Tutu reminds him of “Papa” in The Shack. And I do appreciate Pam giving me the book. Sometime I should return the favor and give her a book I like so she can criticize it on her blog :)
Comment by: benjamin ady
1 04/21/08 8:35 AM | Comment Link |That’s easy. Even the worst human friends communicate more often and less ambiguously than god does. =)
Comment by: pamhogeweide
2 04/21/08 3:38 PM | Comment Link |ok, this made me LOL. :-)
and yes, you are welcome any time to throw a book my way and i promise i will read it, and will blog a review with at least one criticism, but probably more cuz for some reason reviews sound way more credible and interesting when they have points of criticism peppered in them. Go figure.
Thanks for your thoughts here on the book. It will probably sell over 2 million copies eventually, be translated into a whole bunch of languages, and made into a movie. That is an amazing story!
Comment by: Helen
3 04/21/08 5:30 PM | Comment Link |Benjamin, a big part of why I stopped trying to talk to God was the ambiguity. Humans can be unclear and can deliberately try to mislead you but at least you can be sure of the words they said.
Pam, yes, it’s amazing how well The Shack is doing. I read your comments about it on Benjamin’s blog. I don’t doubt that it has a powerful impact on many people reading about a portrayal of God in which God is kind, gentle, sensitive and fun. I think it’s sad so many people have an image of God different from that.
Comment by: Jim Henderson
4 04/21/08 6:55 PM | Comment Link |I have some reasons that I like for having faith in a God who is not limited by free will or determinism.
Comment by: Molly
5 04/27/08 10:07 PM | Comment Link |Maybe you have reasons why having faith in a God limited by freewill is way better than not having faith in God at all. But for me, the latter works better.
I loved the book and just left an Amazon review that all lovers-of-Challies will be sure to negatively react to. *grins*
In regard to the comment above, I hear you. For me, I guess I think about it in a totally different way. My best friend is like a beloved twin to me. I am not sure what I’d do without her, it’s that wonderful of a relationship. The fact that she doesn’t have control of everyone’s will doesn’t impact our relationship in the slightest. :) I just really like her—I enjoy her.
In the same way, a God who didn’t create robots is neither here nor there to me (though I do appreciate not being a robot). I just really like Him. He is someone I enjoy being around.
That’s the main reason why I liked the Shack. There were a few things I see differently, theologically, perhaps, but nothing of major import. The thing I think William Young captured was the concept of a God that you just like being around.
What was it about Jesus that made all the “low-life’s” of the Jewish cities want to hang out with him, want to invite him to all their gatherings and feasts? The God presented in The Shack is that kind of God, whereas the God presented in the “Sovereign God” of the Calvinist theology is emphatically *not.*
The Calvinist God is more like the principal in elementary school or the police officer you pass while driving in town. You’re glad they’re there, yes, but you’re mainly hoping you’re doing everything right so that they won’t come down on you.
I agree with you about the writing. I was unimpressed. I don’t mean that critically, in that I’m not sure I could do any better, but I generally tend to avoid Christian fiction (and most Christian non-fiction, for that matter–ha!) for that reason. But, for me, the concepts introduced in the second half of the book were worth it all.
Comment by: molly
6 05/19/08 8:14 PM | Comment Link |Okay, I want to reframe something I said above, because I said it right after having a rather negative experience with a Calvinist. I want to clarify: *SOME* Calvinist’s version of God is more like…
I would add that *some* Arminianist versions of God are equally like the police officer/principal model. In fact, MOST versions of God in Christian circles in America look very little like Jesus did.
Jesus said He was God incarnate. If God could anthropomorphize, ahem, then Jesus is what God would look like. In other words, the God that a lot of Christians present and follow doesn’t look like it’s all that accurate, if you measure their version against the God-who-became-man.
I think that’s what I liked about The Shack. It was a God that fit the Gospels a lot better than almost anything else I’ve ever seen.
Comment by: benjamin ady
7 05/20/08 12:05 AM | Comment Link |Molly–but think of all you’re missing. superhuman strength, speed, maybe … greater resistance to extreme cold, to extreme heat–no need to eat, to breath, …
(well, depending on version of robot, I guess, but you get my drift)
=)
Comment by: Helen
8 05/20/08 4:57 AM | Comment Link |Molly, sorry, I missed your first comment somehow.
I agree that the power of The Shack is, it presents God as someone people would actually want to be with - wow, what a concept! :)
I’d like to think that whenever someone like William Young writes a book which presents God in a very compelling attractive way, God [if God exists] gets excited and thinks “Way to go, William!”
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